Need help building my first PC.

its funny there is a huge correlation between intel processors and the need to water cool them. wonder if thats because people who run intels don't over clock them right or intel processors thermals aren't as good as amd. i over clock my .8 ghz on stock cooling alone.

@me. i have 2 patriot memmory SSD's and 1 OCZ SSD all generation 2's. now they got gen 3's so i've not messed with those.

First Off you don't need to buy a heatsink this is AMD not INTEL. amd doesn't go cheap with the black editions it comes with a good heatsink the bottom is copper

I totally agree with ME on the AMD cooler comment. The AMD X4 955 Phenom Black I bought for experimenting with had a great cooler...I as impressed.

I'll take a picture and atach it below....wait a minute....go take apee while I do this..LOL.

I had a helluva time to get a real crappy picture. My big hands are good for a lot of things.....bu they are a handicap in smaller cases like the one I used for this experiment box.
AMD Stock Phenom fan from internet picture:


My fat knuckled try below.

BikerDog

I totally agree with ME on the AMD cooler comment. The AMD X4 955 Phenom Black I bought for experimenting with had a great cooler...I as impressed.

it was a good cooler. I could run my 955 BE with that cooler overclocked to 3.6GHz. Only thing was, there was something wrong with the way the fan wire was situated and every time the fan would get above a certain RPM, it would sound like a leafblower in my case. I fixed it by using a ziptie and holding the wire away from the fan with it. With it overclocked I would get around 43C idle temps and on max load around 65C. I bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ cooler for $35 from NewEgg, and now I idle around 24C and on load it never goes above my previous idle temp (43C).

So this is what im finally going with!

CPU:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115071

MOBO:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6813128500

PSU:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6817139022

GPU:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 14-150-521

RAM:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820233147

HDDs:
3x http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... SD-500AAKX

CPU fan:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... No=6101294

Case:
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info ... _id=019666

So ive dropped the SSD, and im going with 3 HDDs, with a RAID 5 configuration.
What do you think? any last objections?

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

1. Intel is faster. Its a fact. It might not be $$$/performace but its faster. I find that AMD is for cheaper builds. If you hit the crossline such as AMD 6 core and core i5(non-sandybridge), the price is about the same.. But it really depends on what you're doing.. but amd would win in that scenario because it has 6 cores even though games on the market only currently support a max of 4 threads. Not to mention if you get an I7, it has Hyperthreading.
2. There isn't too much difference between triple and dual chanel. Besides, I dont think they sell triple channel w/Sandybridge..
3. You are absolutely right. Intel goes with Nvidia. But bobzwik wants AMD GPU because you can crossfire different GPUs together.. ex. a 6950 and 6870.

*edit* I forgot to add: Bobzwik does video editing in premiere pro. Nvidia Cuda would aid him, but you would still need a fast Intel processor to accommodate Premiere Pro. AMD just won't cut it.

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

1. Intel is faster. Its a fact. It might not be $$$/performace but its faster. I find that AMD is for cheaper builds. If you hit the crossline such as AMD 6 core and core i5(non-sandybridge), the price is about the same.. But it really depends on what you're doing.. but amd would win in that scenario because it has 6 cores even though games on the market only currently support a max of 4 threads. Not to mention if you get an I7, it has Hyperthreading.
2. There isn't too much difference between triple and dual chanel. Besides, I dont think they sell triple channel w/Sandybridge..
3. You are absolutely right. Intel goes with Nvidia. But bobzwik wants AMD GPU because you can crossfire different GPUs together.. ex. a 6950 and 6870.

*edit* I forgot to add: Bobzwik does video editing in premiere pro. Nvidia Cuda would aid him, but you would still need a fast Intel processor to accommodate Premiere Pro. AMD just won't cut it.

thanks me! a forgot to add that this build cost around 1100$ without tax and shipping and external stuff.

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

1. Intel is faster. Its a fact. It might not be $$$/performace but its faster. I find that AMD is for cheaper builds. If you hit the crossline such as AMD 6 core and core i5(non-sandybridge), the price is about the same.. But it really depends on what you're doing.. but amd would win in that scenario because it has 6 cores even though games on the market only currently support a max of 4 threads. Not to mention if you get an I7, it has Hyperthreading.
2. There isn't too much difference between triple and dual chanel. Besides, I dont think they sell triple channel w/Sandybridge..
3. You are absolutely right. Intel goes with Nvidia. But bobzwik wants AMD GPU because you can crossfire different GPUs together.. ex. a 6950 and 6870.

*edit* I forgot to add: Bobzwik does video editing in premiere pro. Nvidia Cuda would aid him, but you would still need a fast Intel processor to accommodate Premiere Pro. AMD just won't cut it.

intel is a little faster but not much unless you get the 980X then well its just sweet but you pay for it. AMD builds are cheaper by far and amd's 6 core's outperform the i5's but not the i7's.

there is a difference between dual and tri-channel memmory thats why the i7's are so powerfull because of triple channel memory controllers.

and if you do alot of video editing go with professional cards not gaming cards. go with quadro's or firegl. amd i have a 955 and i can do anything in adobe master collection cs5 so the whole AMD won't cut it is false. and you can even go to saying if your doing more business processing go with either xenons or opterons.

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

1. Intel is faster. Its a fact. It might not be $$$/performace but its faster. I find that AMD is for cheaper builds. If you hit the crossline such as AMD 6 core and core i5(non-sandybridge), the price is about the same.. But it really depends on what you're doing.. but amd would win in that scenario because it has 6 cores even though games on the market only currently support a max of 4 threads. Not to mention if you get an I7, it has Hyperthreading.
2. There isn't too much difference between triple and dual chanel. Besides, I dont think they sell triple channel w/Sandybridge..
3. You are absolutely right. Intel goes with Nvidia. But bobzwik wants AMD GPU because you can crossfire different GPUs together.. ex. a 6950 and 6870.

*edit* I forgot to add: Bobzwik does video editing in premiere pro. Nvidia Cuda would aid him, but you would still need a fast Intel processor to accommodate Premiere Pro. AMD just won't cut it.

intel is a little faster but not much unless you get the 980X then well its just sweet but you pay for it. AMD builds are cheaper by far and amd's 6 core's outperform the i5's but not the i7's.

there is a difference between dual and tri-channel memmory thats why the i7's are so powerfull because of triple channel memory controllers.

and if you do alot of video editing go with professional cards not gaming cards. go with quadro's or firegl. amd i have a 955 and i can do anything in adobe master collection cs5 so the whole AMD won't cut it is false. and you can even go to saying if your doing more business processing go with either xenons or opterons.

but i do play more than i make videos.

what suggestion do you have for a triple-channel mobo? ill just see if this interests me, if not, ill order this tomorrow.

The sandy bridge I7s dont have tri- channel only dual channel which is one of only a few down falls of the i7 but the 6core i 7 does have trichannel.

The sandy bridge I7s dont have tri- channel only dual channel which is one of only a few down falls of the i7 but the 6core i 7 does have trichannel.

i guess that solves it!

but whats the difference between the i7 2600 and the i7 2600k?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115070

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115071

All i know is that the 2600k has slightly better integrated graphics.

first you bought an intel.... yuck.....

2nd you bought an i7 and got a motherboard that only has dual channel memory why not get one that goes tri-channel

3rd if you buy intel go with nvidia graphics card because intel side chips use nvidia technology.

you will get better performance with an amd.

1. Intel is faster. Its a fact. It might not be $$$/performace but its faster. I find that AMD is for cheaper builds. If you hit the crossline such as AMD 6 core and core i5(non-sandybridge), the price is about the same.. But it really depends on what you're doing.. but amd would win in that scenario because it has 6 cores even though games on the market only currently support a max of 4 threads. Not to mention if you get an I7, it has Hyperthreading.
2. There isn't too much difference between triple and dual chanel. Besides, I dont think they sell triple channel w/Sandybridge..
3. You are absolutely right. Intel goes with Nvidia. But bobzwik wants AMD GPU because you can crossfire different GPUs together.. ex. a 6950 and 6870.

*edit* I forgot to add: Bobzwik does video editing in premiere pro. Nvidia Cuda would aid him, but you would still need a fast Intel processor to accommodate Premiere Pro. AMD just won't cut it.

intel is a little faster but not much unless you get the 980X then well its just sweet but you pay for it. AMD builds are cheaper by far and amd's 6 core's outperform the i5's but not the i7's.

there is a difference between dual and tri-channel memmory thats why the i7's are so powerfull because of triple channel memory controllers.

and if you do alot of video editing go with professional cards not gaming cards. go with quadro's or firegl. amd i have a 955 and i can do anything in adobe master collection cs5 so the whole AMD won't cut it is false. and you can even go to saying if your doing more business processing go with either xenons or opterons.

Yes.. I did mention AMD 6-cores are better then i5s for the same price.. But like i said, its not $$$/performance.. That's more/less down AMD's alley.. Intel is more like $$$ for better performance.
Quadros are way too expensive for cards that have more RAM..all Nvidia does is add accelerating drivers..
Bobzwik uses premiere pro but I dont think that he uses 50+ layers at a time...
I apologize for making the statement about the "AMD can't cut it" When I typed that, I was referring to a commercial stand point which has nothing to do with this topic.
Xenon? Isn't that a gas on the periodic table of elements? Or did you mean Xeon? (lol..just teasing..)
I think all he needs is a gaming computer that can run premiere pro.. nothing for commercial use..


Bobzwik, You can get triple channel, but it won't be sandybridge. It will probably be westmere..

The sandy bridge I7s dont have tri- channel only dual channel which is one of only a few down falls of the i7 but the 6core i 7 does have trichannel.

i guess that solves it!

but whats the difference between the i7 2600 and the i7 2600k?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115070

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115071

All i know is that the 2600k has slightly better integrated graphics.

The models with "k" means that they're built for overclocking as the ones without K suck for OC'ing.

The sandy bridge I7s dont have tri- channel only dual channel which is one of only a few down falls of the i7 but the 6core i 7 does have trichannel.

i guess that solves it!

but whats the difference between the i7 2600 and the i7 2600k?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115070

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6819115071

All i know is that the 2600k has slightly better integrated graphics.

i think K means its able to be overclocked like the multiplier is unlocked.

yes the is the unlocked multipler which helps but not needed.

One more thing you need bobzwik is a mic to talk on teamspeak so dont forget that ok.