Just try to take my DS away...

I have swords..would those help..?

Pleassssssssssse, do you know that if some body wants to take your console away from and he has a gun, he's ready to kill also, first he knew that he going after it but you don't just because of that he is more prepared for what 's gonna happen.

But they didn't know if the bad guys had a gun.

I'll say it again... but the bad guys didn't know if the good guys had a gun either

Pleassssssssssse, do you know that if some body wants to take your console away from and he has a gun, he's ready to kill also, first he knew that he going after it but you don't just because of that he is more prepared for what 's gonna happen.

But they didn't know if the bad guys had a gun.

I'll say it again... but the bad guys didn't know if the good guys had a gun either

Umm in that type of senario..Its more of an impulse reaction..no time to think..so ill assume that he had an impulse reaction..

Umm in that type of senario..Its more of an impulse reaction..no time to think..so ill assume that he had an impulse reaction..

exactly... if one of the gamers WAS armed.. his first impulse in that situation might have been to open fire and empty the clip (adrenaline rush).... I'd think that if I was in that situation and that pissed somebody coming into MY home and disrupting MY life and threatening bodily harm to ANYONE I know would definetly be met with a wall of 9mm lead... self defense, flight or fight... the thugs were the lucky ones... outnumbered, and possibly out gunned, we'll never know... however I DO KNOW that there are several gamers in this very clan that have plenty of guns and know how to use them. How do you think these guys would have fared if they walked in a room full of TKC members... just something to think about.

I'm playing devil's advocate here a little bit... but the point is that I'm not sure I agree with the "oh dont do anything stupid like fight back, just roll over and you won't get hurt" mentality we've been fed on a lot of levels.. I say fawk yeah fight back, if somebody starts a fight with you, you better finish it! chalk one up for the good guys on this one!

Pleassssssssssse, do you know that if some body wants to take your console away from and he has a gun, he's ready to kill also, first he knew that he going after it but you don't just because of that he is more prepared for what 's gonna happen.

But they didn't know if the bad guys had a gun.

I'll say it again... but the bad guys didn't know if the good guys had a gun either

Now brownman i respect your point i really do bro, but i have to just say that even cops who are trained to fire never go into a situation ever thinking they are going to have to fire there guns. The gun is first a threat not kill device, its intended to instill fear that it will be used to defend oneself or protect another. Even cops forget one thing or another when it comes to a fire fight if its there first time the adrenalin kicks in and they forget half there training. This i know from my family i have law enforcement and military members, even a robber will not want to fire that weapon even when put into that spot they my think they will pull the trigger but there bodies will say something else at that time.

How do you think these guys would have fared if they walked in a room full of TKC members... just something to think about.

Hmm..let me take a swing at this one!

A: *an obvious answer: we'd "WTF-PWN" em with a combination of guns, knives, melee attacks and insults.

B: *a maybe answer: Ushima would come out of nowhere and knife him.

C: *a less likely answer: we'd wind up friends and recruit him into the clan. :D

..in scenario A or B, he'd most likely be spawned RIGHT NEXT TO either me, thrilla, or dragon..knowing the server's luck anyways..lol

How do you think these guys would have fared if they walked in a room full of TKC members... just something to think about.

Hmm..let me take a swing at this one!

A: *an obvious answer: we'd "WTF-PWN" em with a combination of guns, knives, melee attacks and insults.

B: *a maybe answer: Ushima would come out of nowhere and knife him.

C: *a less likely answer: we'd wind up friends and recruit him into the clan. :D

..in scenario A or B, he'd most likely be spawned RIGHT NEXT TO either me, thrilla, or dragon..knowing the server's luck anyways..lol

Lol ushima i could just see it me holding a shotgun, thrilla holding a high powered sniper rifle(M95) with iron sights and you holding an assualt rifle with the smoke grenade attachment underneth. Of course all of us holding combat knives ready to take our trophies.

How do you think these guys would have fared if they walked in a room full of TKC members... just something to think about.

Hmm..let me take a swing at this one!

A: *an obvious answer: we'd "WTF-PWN" em with a combination of guns, knives, melee attacks and insults.

B: *a maybe answer: Ushima would come out of nowhere and knife him.

C: *a less likely answer: we'd wind up friends and recruit him into the clan. :D

..in scenario A or B, he'd most likely be spawned RIGHT NEXT TO either me, thrilla, or dragon..knowing the server's luck anyways..lol

lol Ushi... definitely A! heavy emphasis on insults