FAQ  •  Register  • 
  • Login
  • CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:00 pm

    CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    is it just me? or is the US goverment becoming dumber by the yocto-second?

    here is another bill coming that is trying to take away our privacy.
    contact your reps and tell them were they can stick this bill.

    here is come info i got from here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/c ... ou-stop-it

    What is “CISPA”?

    CISPA stands for The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, a cybersecurity bill written by Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD) (H.R. 3523). The bill purports to allow companies and the federal government to share information to prevent or defend from cyberattacks. However, the bill expressly authorizes monitoring of our private communications, and is written so broadly that it allows companies to hand over large swaths of personal information to the government with no judicial oversight—effectively creating a “cybersecurity” loophole in all existing privacy laws. Because the bill is so hotly debated now, unofficial proposed amendments are also being circulated [link] and the actual bill language is in flux.

    Under CISPA, can a private company read my emails?

    Yes. Under CISPA, any company can “use cybersecurity systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property” of the company. This phrase is being interpreted to mean monitoring your communications—including the contents of email or private messages on Facebook.

    Right now, well-established laws, like the Wiretap Act and the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, prevent companies from routinely monitoring your private communications. Communications service providers may only engage in reasonable monitoring that balances the providers' needs to protect their rights and property with their subscribers' right to privacy in their communications. And these laws expressly allow lawsuits against companies that go too far. CISPA destroys these protections by declaring that any provision in CISPA is effective “notwithstanding any other law” and by creating a broad immunity for companies against both civil and criminal liability. This means companies can bypass all existing laws, as long as they claim a vague “cybersecurity” purpose.

    What would allow a company to read my emails?

    CISPA has such an expansive definition of "cybersecurity threat information" that many ordinary activities could qualify. CISPA is not specific, but similar definitions in two Senate bills provide clues as to what these activities could be. Basic privacy practices that EFF recommends—like using an anonymizing service like Tor or even encrypting your emails—could be considered an indicator of a “threat” under the Senate bills. As we have stated previously, the bills’ definitions “implicate far more than what security experts would reasonably consider to be cybersecurity threat indicators—things like port scans, DDoS traffic, and the like.”

    A more detailed explanation about what could constitute a “cybersecurity purpose” or “cyber security threat indicator” in the various cybersecurity bills can be read here.

    Under CISPA, can a company hand my communications over to the government without a warrant?

    Yes. After collecting your communications, companies can then voluntarily hand them over to the government with no warrant or judicial oversight whatsoever as long is the communications have what the companies interpret to be “cyber threat information” in them. Once the government has your communications, they can read them too.

    Under CISPA, what can I do if a company improperly hands over private information to the government?

    Almost nothing. CISPA would affirmatively prevent users from suing a company if they hand over their private information to the government in virtually all cases. A broad immunity provision in the proposed amendments gives companies complete protection from user lawsuits unless information was given to the government:

    (I) intentionally to achieve a wrongful purpose;
    (II) knowingly without legal or factual justification; and
    (III) in disregard of a known or obvious risk that is so great as to make it highly probably that the harm of the act or omission will outweigh the benefit.

    As Techdirt concluded, “no matter how you slice it, this is an insanely onerous definition of willful misconduct that makes it essentially impossible to ever sue a company for wrongly sharing data under CISPA.” This proposed immunity provision is actually worse than the prior version of the bill, under which companies could be sued if they acted in “bad faith.”

    What government agencies can look at my private information?

    Under CISPA, companies are directed to hand “cyber threat information” to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Once it’s in DHS’s hands, the bill says that DHS can then hand the information to other intelligence agencies, including the National Security Agency, at its discretion.

    Can the government use my private information for other purposes besides “cybersecurity” once they have it?

    Yes. When the bill was originally drafted, information could be used for all other law enforcement purposes besides “regulatory purposes.” A new amendment narrows this slightly. Now—even though the information was passed along to the government for only cybersecurity purposes—the government can use your personal information for either cybersecurity or national security investigations. And as long as it can be used for one of those purposes, it can be used for any other purpose as well.

    Can the government use my private information to go after alleged copyright infringers and whistleblower websites?

    Up until last Friday the answer was yes, and now it’s changed to maybe. In response to the overwhelming protest from the Internet community that this bill would become a backdoor for SOPA 2, the bill authors have proposed an amendment that rids the bill of any reference to “intellectual property.”

    The bill previously defined “cyber threat intelligence” and “cybersecurity purpose” to include “theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property, or personally identifiable information.” Now the text reads:

    (B) efforts to gain unauthorized access to a system or network, including efforts to gain such unauthorized access to steal or misappropriate private or government information

    But it is important to remember that this proposed amendment is just that: proposed. The House has not voted it into the bill yet, so they still must follow through and remove it completely.

    A more detailed explanation of how this provision could be used for copyright enforcement and censoring whistleblower sites like WikiLeaks can be read here.

    What can I do to stop the government from misusing my private information?

    CISPA does allow users to sue the government if they intentionally or willfully use their information for purposes other than what is described above. But any such lawsuit will be difficult to bring. For instance, the statute of limitations for such a lawsuit is two years from the date of the actual violation. It’s not at all clear how an individual would know of such misuse if it were kept inside the government.

    Moreover, suing the government where classified information or the “state secrets privilege” is involved is difficult, expensive, and time consuming. EFF has been involved for years in a lawsuit over Fourth Amendment and statutory violations stemming from the warrantless wiretapping program run by the NSA—a likely recipient of “cyber threat information.” Despite six years of litigation, the government continues to maintain that the “state secrets” privilege prevents the lawsuit from being heard.

    Given that DHS is notorious for classifying everything—even including their budget and number of employees—they may attempt to prevent users from finding out exactly how this information was ever used. And if the information is in the hands of the NSA and they claim “national security,” then it would get even harder.

    In addition, while CISPA does mandate an Inspector General should issue a report to Congress over the government’s use of this information, its recommendations or remedies do not have to be followed.

    Why are Facebook and other companies supporting this legislation?

    Facebook and other companies have endorsed this legislation because they want to be able to receive information about network security threats from the government. This is a fine goal, but unfortunately CISPA would do far more than that—it would eviscerate existing privacy laws by allowing companies to voluntarily share users’ private information with the government.

    Facebook released a statement Friday saying that they are concerned about users’ privacy rights and that the provision allowing them to hand user information to the government “is unrelated to the things we liked about HR 3523 in the first place.” As we explained in our analysis of Facebook’s response: the “stated goal of Facebook—namely, for companies to receive data about cybersecurity threats from the government—does not necessitate any of the CISPA provisions that allow companies to routinely monitor private communications and share personal user data gleaned from those communications with the government.” Read more about why Facebook should withdraw support from CISPA until privacy safeguards are in place here.
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    <<

    (TKC) brownman350

    User avatar

    Exalted Member
    Exalted Member

    Posts: 4799

    Joined: Wed Jul 8, 2009

    Location: Canada

    Division: WarZ

    Steam Name: (TKC) brownman350

    BF3 Soldier: brownman350

    Reputation: 2

    Post Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:25 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Some body tell me please what is wrong with those people, every body have to talk about it to stop it :icon_there:
    • 0

    Image
    <<

    ferrari8608

    User avatar

    Member
    Member

    Posts: 111

    Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011

    Location: Park Hills, MO

    Division: Bad Company 2

    Steam Name: chazzthespaz

    BF3 Soldier: WillKill4Ramen

    Reputation: 1

    Post Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:48 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Shared this on facebook. People need to know about it.

    Tapatalk'd from my HTC Merge
    • 0

    AMD Phenom II X4 970 ~ MSI NF980-G65 ~ 8 GB G.SKILL Sniper DDR3 1333 ~ EVGA GeForce GTX 580 ~ Corsair HX 750W ~ Antec Lanboy Air
    <<

    ME.

    User avatar

    Esteemed Member
    Esteemed Member

    Posts: 1338

    Joined: Thu Aug 6, 2009

    Division: Half-Life 2 Deathmatch

    Reputation: 0

    Post Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:19 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    ferrari8608 wrote:Shared this on facebook. People need to know about it.

    Tapatalk'd from my HTC Merge

    +1

    Thanks Knightwolf for sharing the info... everyone needs to know about this...

    I will be sharing it with my friends..
    • 0

    ImageImage
    Sometimes measuring the bottleneck can be interpreted in so many ways. The only Thing ATI can render better then Nvidia is BSoD.
    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:46 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    no problem guys.

    i stopped using Facebook, since they are for this useless excuse of legislation.
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    <<

    xMaster081

    User avatar

    Member
    Member

    Posts: 133

    Joined: Tue Jun 7, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 3

    Reputation: 0

    Post Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:11 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    *facepalm*
    why America... why?
    • 0

    Image
    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:41 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    current CISPA Supporters:

    AT&T
    Boeing
    BSA
    Business Roundtable
    CSC
    COMPTEL
    CTIA – The Wireless Association
    Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
    Edison Electric
    EMC
    Exelon
    Facebook
    The Financial Services Roundtable
    IBM
    Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
    Information Technology Industry Council
    Intel
    Internet Security Alliance
    Lockheed Martin
    Microsoft
    National Cable & Telecommunications Association
    NDIA
    Oracle
    Symantec
    TechAmerica
    US Chamber of Commerce
    US Telecom – The Broadband Association
    Verizon
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    <<

    (TKC)TheCrimsonStar

    User avatar

    Exalted Member
    Exalted Member

    Posts: 4393

    Joined: Thu May 28, 2009

    Location: Knoxville, Tennessee

    Division: Battlefield 3

    Steam Name: thecrimsonstar

    BF3 Soldier: TheCrimsonStar

    Reputation: 0

    Post Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:14 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Should change that list title to "Companies That Are About To Lose Millions Of Members"

    This is gonna get destroyed just like SOPA and PIPA.

    Sent from my VM670 using Tapatalk 2
    • 0

    ASUS Sabertooth P67 | Intel Core i5-2500k @ 3.3GHz | Corsair XMS3 1600 8GB (2 x 4GB) | XFX Radeon HD 6970 | Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W | Corsair H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler |
    ImageImage
    <<

    (TKC) brownman350

    User avatar

    Exalted Member
    Exalted Member

    Posts: 4799

    Joined: Wed Jul 8, 2009

    Location: Canada

    Division: WarZ

    Steam Name: (TKC) brownman350

    BF3 Soldier: brownman350

    Reputation: 2

    Post Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:48 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    You 're right :)
    (TKC)TheCrimsonStar wrote:Should change that list title to "Companies That Are About To Lose Millions Of Members"
    • 0

    Image
    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:47 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    bill be heading to the house floor on Thursday for debate, and has to be voted on before the end of business on Friday.

    sign the petitions!
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa_corporate_global/?fp
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    <<

    (TKC) brownman350

    User avatar

    Exalted Member
    Exalted Member

    Posts: 4799

    Joined: Wed Jul 8, 2009

    Location: Canada

    Division: WarZ

    Steam Name: (TKC) brownman350

    BF3 Soldier: brownman350

    Reputation: 2

    Post Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:28 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Done :)
    • 0

    Image
    <<

    country_boy454

    Revered Member
    Revered Member

    Posts: 1514

    Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011

    Location: northern MN

    Division: Tom Clancys The Division

    Steam Name: plumbrokezj318

    BF3 Soldier: PlumBroke318

    Reputation: 9

    Post Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:21 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Signed both myself and for my parents and my siblings, so thats 8 more people!
    • 0

    CPU: i7 5930k 4.7GHz MOBO:Asus X99-E WSRam:G.Skill DDR4 2666 32gbGPU:SLI'd EVGA GTX 980tiPSU:EVGA 220-T2-1600-X1HDD:500gb Raid 0 850 EVO SSDs, 5tb Toshiba 128mb cacheCase:Lian Li PC-D666WRXDisplay:32" Samsung, (2) Acer S231HL Cooling:Corsair H100i GTX, 12 BGears 120mm PWM fans
    <<

    Dragonrage217

    User avatar

    Honored Member
    Honored Member

    Posts: 817

    Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    Steam Name: (TKC)Dragonrage217

    BF3 Soldier: Dragonrage217

    BF4 Soldier: Dragonrage217

    Reputation: 2

    Post Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:47 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Signed
    • 0

    Image
    Image
    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:30 pm

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    Obama is stepping up and is threatening a Veto :)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    <<

    Knightwolf654

    User avatar

    Respected Member
    Respected Member

    Posts: 508

    Joined: Sat Feb 5, 2011

    Division: Battlefield 4

    BF3 Soldier: knightwolf654

    BF4 Soldier: knightwolf654

    Reputation: 21

    Post Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:06 am

    Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

    it passed the house :icon_singletear: :icon_waterworks:
    • 0

    i7 3930k @ 4.2 Ghz
    Gigabyte R9 Fury X :icon_mrgreen:
    32gb ddr3-1866
    3x 27" LG IPS displays + 1 23" IPS display
    Samsung 850 pro 512GB
    Samsung 830 pro 256GB
    WD SE 2TB
    1200 watt Corsair PSU
    H100 water cooling
    8TB FreeNas Server
    Next

    Return to General Discussion

    Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

    cron
    x

    #{title}

    #{text}