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CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:00 pm
by Knightwolf654
is it just me? or is the US goverment becoming dumber by the yocto-second?

here is another bill coming that is trying to take away our privacy.
contact your reps and tell them were they can stick this bill.

here is come info i got from here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/c ... ou-stop-it

What is “CISPA”?

CISPA stands for The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, a cybersecurity bill written by Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD) (H.R. 3523). The bill purports to allow companies and the federal government to share information to prevent or defend from cyberattacks. However, the bill expressly authorizes monitoring of our private communications, and is written so broadly that it allows companies to hand over large swaths of personal information to the government with no judicial oversight—effectively creating a “cybersecurity” loophole in all existing privacy laws. Because the bill is so hotly debated now, unofficial proposed amendments are also being circulated [link] and the actual bill language is in flux.

Under CISPA, can a private company read my emails?

Yes. Under CISPA, any company can “use cybersecurity systems to identify and obtain cyber threat information to protect the rights and property” of the company. This phrase is being interpreted to mean monitoring your communications—including the contents of email or private messages on Facebook.

Right now, well-established laws, like the Wiretap Act and the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, prevent companies from routinely monitoring your private communications. Communications service providers may only engage in reasonable monitoring that balances the providers' needs to protect their rights and property with their subscribers' right to privacy in their communications. And these laws expressly allow lawsuits against companies that go too far. CISPA destroys these protections by declaring that any provision in CISPA is effective “notwithstanding any other law” and by creating a broad immunity for companies against both civil and criminal liability. This means companies can bypass all existing laws, as long as they claim a vague “cybersecurity” purpose.

What would allow a company to read my emails?

CISPA has such an expansive definition of "cybersecurity threat information" that many ordinary activities could qualify. CISPA is not specific, but similar definitions in two Senate bills provide clues as to what these activities could be. Basic privacy practices that EFF recommends—like using an anonymizing service like Tor or even encrypting your emails—could be considered an indicator of a “threat” under the Senate bills. As we have stated previously, the bills’ definitions “implicate far more than what security experts would reasonably consider to be cybersecurity threat indicators—things like port scans, DDoS traffic, and the like.”

A more detailed explanation about what could constitute a “cybersecurity purpose” or “cyber security threat indicator” in the various cybersecurity bills can be read here.

Under CISPA, can a company hand my communications over to the government without a warrant?

Yes. After collecting your communications, companies can then voluntarily hand them over to the government with no warrant or judicial oversight whatsoever as long is the communications have what the companies interpret to be “cyber threat information” in them. Once the government has your communications, they can read them too.

Under CISPA, what can I do if a company improperly hands over private information to the government?

Almost nothing. CISPA would affirmatively prevent users from suing a company if they hand over their private information to the government in virtually all cases. A broad immunity provision in the proposed amendments gives companies complete protection from user lawsuits unless information was given to the government:

(I) intentionally to achieve a wrongful purpose;
(II) knowingly without legal or factual justification; and
(III) in disregard of a known or obvious risk that is so great as to make it highly probably that the harm of the act or omission will outweigh the benefit.

As Techdirt concluded, “no matter how you slice it, this is an insanely onerous definition of willful misconduct that makes it essentially impossible to ever sue a company for wrongly sharing data under CISPA.” This proposed immunity provision is actually worse than the prior version of the bill, under which companies could be sued if they acted in “bad faith.”

What government agencies can look at my private information?

Under CISPA, companies are directed to hand “cyber threat information” to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Once it’s in DHS’s hands, the bill says that DHS can then hand the information to other intelligence agencies, including the National Security Agency, at its discretion.

Can the government use my private information for other purposes besides “cybersecurity” once they have it?

Yes. When the bill was originally drafted, information could be used for all other law enforcement purposes besides “regulatory purposes.” A new amendment narrows this slightly. Now—even though the information was passed along to the government for only cybersecurity purposes—the government can use your personal information for either cybersecurity or national security investigations. And as long as it can be used for one of those purposes, it can be used for any other purpose as well.

Can the government use my private information to go after alleged copyright infringers and whistleblower websites?

Up until last Friday the answer was yes, and now it’s changed to maybe. In response to the overwhelming protest from the Internet community that this bill would become a backdoor for SOPA 2, the bill authors have proposed an amendment that rids the bill of any reference to “intellectual property.”

The bill previously defined “cyber threat intelligence” and “cybersecurity purpose” to include “theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property, or personally identifiable information.” Now the text reads:

(B) efforts to gain unauthorized access to a system or network, including efforts to gain such unauthorized access to steal or misappropriate private or government information

But it is important to remember that this proposed amendment is just that: proposed. The House has not voted it into the bill yet, so they still must follow through and remove it completely.

A more detailed explanation of how this provision could be used for copyright enforcement and censoring whistleblower sites like WikiLeaks can be read here.

What can I do to stop the government from misusing my private information?

CISPA does allow users to sue the government if they intentionally or willfully use their information for purposes other than what is described above. But any such lawsuit will be difficult to bring. For instance, the statute of limitations for such a lawsuit is two years from the date of the actual violation. It’s not at all clear how an individual would know of such misuse if it were kept inside the government.

Moreover, suing the government where classified information or the “state secrets privilege” is involved is difficult, expensive, and time consuming. EFF has been involved for years in a lawsuit over Fourth Amendment and statutory violations stemming from the warrantless wiretapping program run by the NSA—a likely recipient of “cyber threat information.” Despite six years of litigation, the government continues to maintain that the “state secrets” privilege prevents the lawsuit from being heard.

Given that DHS is notorious for classifying everything—even including their budget and number of employees—they may attempt to prevent users from finding out exactly how this information was ever used. And if the information is in the hands of the NSA and they claim “national security,” then it would get even harder.

In addition, while CISPA does mandate an Inspector General should issue a report to Congress over the government’s use of this information, its recommendations or remedies do not have to be followed.

Why are Facebook and other companies supporting this legislation?

Facebook and other companies have endorsed this legislation because they want to be able to receive information about network security threats from the government. This is a fine goal, but unfortunately CISPA would do far more than that—it would eviscerate existing privacy laws by allowing companies to voluntarily share users’ private information with the government.

Facebook released a statement Friday saying that they are concerned about users’ privacy rights and that the provision allowing them to hand user information to the government “is unrelated to the things we liked about HR 3523 in the first place.” As we explained in our analysis of Facebook’s response: the “stated goal of Facebook—namely, for companies to receive data about cybersecurity threats from the government—does not necessitate any of the CISPA provisions that allow companies to routinely monitor private communications and share personal user data gleaned from those communications with the government.” Read more about why Facebook should withdraw support from CISPA until privacy safeguards are in place here.

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:25 am
by (TKC) brownman350
Some body tell me please what is wrong with those people, every body have to talk about it to stop it :icon_there:

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:48 pm
by ferrari8608
Shared this on facebook. People need to know about it.

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Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:19 am
by ME.
ferrari8608 wrote:Shared this on facebook. People need to know about it.

Tapatalk'd from my HTC Merge

+1

Thanks Knightwolf for sharing the info... everyone needs to know about this...

I will be sharing it with my friends..

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:46 pm
by Knightwolf654
no problem guys.

i stopped using Facebook, since they are for this useless excuse of legislation.

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:11 pm
by xMaster081
*facepalm*
why America... why?

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:41 am
by Knightwolf654
current CISPA Supporters:

AT&T
Boeing
BSA
Business Roundtable
CSC
COMPTEL
CTIA – The Wireless Association
Cyber, Space & Intelligence Association
Edison Electric
EMC
Exelon
Facebook
The Financial Services Roundtable
IBM
Independent Telephone & Telecommunications Alliance
Information Technology Industry Council
Intel
Internet Security Alliance
Lockheed Martin
Microsoft
National Cable & Telecommunications Association
NDIA
Oracle
Symantec
TechAmerica
US Chamber of Commerce
US Telecom – The Broadband Association
Verizon

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:14 am
by (TKC)TheCrimsonStar
Should change that list title to "Companies That Are About To Lose Millions Of Members"

This is gonna get destroyed just like SOPA and PIPA.

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Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:48 am
by (TKC) brownman350
You 're right :)
(TKC)TheCrimsonStar wrote:Should change that list title to "Companies That Are About To Lose Millions Of Members"

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:47 pm
by Knightwolf654
bill be heading to the house floor on Thursday for debate, and has to be voted on before the end of business on Friday.

sign the petitions!
http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa_corporate_global/?fp
http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_cispa/

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:28 am
by (TKC) brownman350
Done :)

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:21 pm
by country_boy454
Signed both myself and for my parents and my siblings, so thats 8 more people!

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:47 am
by Dragonrage217
Signed

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:30 pm
by Knightwolf654
Obama is stepping up and is threatening a Veto :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

Re: CISPA... SOPA's evil twin

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:06 am
by Knightwolf654
it passed the house :icon_singletear: :icon_waterworks: